Saturday, 17 October 2009
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God Loves Gays
The Blogging Dangerously Series, Warp Factor 9
Disclaimer: The following post will be operating entirely within the scope of Christianity. If Christianity is wrong, untrue, or flawed, then so is this argument. It is beyond the scale of this post to look at the same issue from other paradigms : perhaps when I have time to write a book, eh?
1) Does God Love Gays?
We need to establish that first and foremost. Because out there are people like Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church who wave signs that say "God Hates Fags," or other professing Christians who (at best) forget the nature of the One they claim to worship and follow. Within the scope of Christianity, the following needs to be heard and understood:God loves gays. God loves lesbians. God loves transsexuals and bisexuals. They are his children, and he loves them.
When John (the apostle who perhaps knew Jesus the best) says that God is love, we often fail to see the implications. Perhaps it is because the phrase has become so overused, or perhaps because in English our word "love" is trying to do so many jobs at the same time. But to say Θεὸς ἀγάπη ἐστίν is to say a profound truth. We are not saying simply that God has affection, or even that God embodies affection, or that God embodies an emotion of benevolence. ἀγάπη is more than human love; it is divine love (1st John 4:7), it is self-sacrificial love (John 15:13, 1st John 3:16). The love that God embodies is unconditional. God ἀγαπάωs everyone, even "sinners" (Romans 5:8). Jesus commanded Christians to ἀγαπάω everyone, even their enemies (Luke 6:27). Nowhere in any of this do I see "except gays." Nowhere do I see that God loved everyone "except gays," or that Christians are to love everyone "except lesbians." When that passage says that "God so loved the world," there are no exceptions.
Regardless of what your sexual orientation is, what genitalia you have, who you've slept with, what you've done, or what you're going to do, God loves you. There's nothing you can do to make him stop loving you. That's what unconditional love means. That's what ἀγάπη means.
Major premise: God unconditionally loves humans
Minor premise: Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals and Transsexuals are humans
Ergo: God unconditionally loves Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals and Transsexuals2) If God loves Gays, how come Christians say it's a sin to be gay?
Several of you noticed that I said this post was not going to be about why God loves gays, but how. Explaining why God loves gays is easy--he's God, it's kind of what he does. What's hard is explaining how this can be true considering the other things that Christianity says. For instance: doesn't Christianity say that being gay is a sin?
Answer: No. Well, yes. Sorta.
See, it all depends on how you define "being gay." If you define it by orientation or by desire, then no, Christianity does not say it's a sin to be gay. However, according to the Bible, God does say that same-sex intercourse is a sin. But notice that is a particular action, not an orientation.
(Sidenote: I'm aware that some of my readers may believe that the Bible does not say that same-sex intercourse is a sin, basing this ascertation on one of a few popular theories regarding the relevant passages. I personally find this a weak case, particularly in light of the writings of the early church fathers, the midrash of the ancient rabbis, and their understanding of what these passages meant. We can argue that out in a future post if you prefer; for the moment, let's say that the face-value interpretation is accurate for the sake of argument.)
Minor Premise: God considers same-sex intercourse to be a form of "sin"
Though really, while we're at it, we should mention that
Minor Premise: God considers most forms of heterosexual intercourse to be a form of "sin."
(I mean, really. If you're a Christian, you're only allowed to have sex with one person, and within a very narrow set of parameters, and not everyone gets even that one person.)Are these conclusions mutually exclusive with our previous conclusion? I don't believe so. God loves us unconditionally, yes. Does loving us unconditionally automatically translate into approval of our actions?
I don't believe that it is. Love is not synonymous with approval. If I have a daughter, and my daughter is shoplifting and stealing, do I cease to love my daughter? Of course not. But just because I love my daughter doesn't mean I approve of or condone what she's doing. Because what she's doing is not what's best for her. And if what she's doing gets her arrested, her Actions can separate her from me. Yet I would never stop loving her.Within Christianity, sin is defined as failing to live up to some particular standard. It is a form of choosing one's own path instead of God's path (Isaiah 53:6). It can involve an action, a lack of action (James 4:17), or even a mental attitude (Matthew 5:22). Everyone sins (1st John 1:6, Romans 3:10). And sin, in some sense, enslaves the one who sins (John 8:34). Sin comes between us and God.
"But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear." --Isaiah 59:1-2
Minor Premise: Everyone sins
Major Premise: Sin separates humans from God
Ergo: Sin separates everyone from God."This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin." --1st John 1:5-7
Major Premise: Sin damages a human's fellowship with God.
With me so far? Now, we're going to have to switch from deductive reasoning to inductive for a moment. Because if you look at several passages such as Deut. 12:31 or Luke 16:15, they speak of God "hating" sin. Why is this? Why does he feel so strongly about it?Major Premise: God hates sin.
Well, looking at the conclusions we just came to about sin--it separating us from God and destroying our fellowship with him--I think it's not a huge leap to come to the conclusion that
Hypothesis: Because he unconditionally loves humans, God hates whatever separates humans from himself.
And from there to
Ergo: Because he unconditionally loves humans, God hates sin.
It's a horrible religious cliche to say that "God hates the sin but loves the sinner." I don't blame you for kind of gagging over that one. But try this one on for size: God hates sin because he loves the sinner.
The relationship between God's stance on sin and God's unconditional love is causal. He hates our sin because he loves us.
(And of course, ἀγάπη being self-sacrificial as well as unconditional, at great personal cost he provided a method to eliminate that separation between himself and you. Keep reading 1st John 1 and 2 if you want to know more about that.)
Major premise: It is possible for sin to be forgiven.
3) Let's say that you're right, that it's a sin. Why is it a sin? Why should it separate me from God in the first place? Why should God care who I sleep with?
This is a rough question to answer. Why is same-sex intercourse a sin? Why are any of the sexual sins, sins? Why is anything a sin?
Well, the Westminster Catechism defines sin as "anything contrary to the will or nature of God." The nature part is easier to get: if Truth is intrinsic to the nature of God, then lying would be contrary to that; if Justice is intrinsic to the nature of God, then injustice would be contrary to that. But will? Does that mean that something can be a sin for no other reason than that it's not God's will? Is God using that phrase that every parent swore they'd never use: "Because I said so"?
I mean, looking at the vast array of various things God has verboten over the centuries you've got a spectrum:
--Things that are contrary to God's nature (injustice, lying)
--Things that were forbidden for humanity's benefit (hygiene laws before germs were known, food laws before food prep was standardized)
--Things that were forbidden symbolically (mixed cloth representing a breakdown in purity, disrespecting communion representing a disrespecting of the Body)
--Things that we have no idea why the heck they were forbidden. (Knowledge of Good and Evil? Keeping the Ark from falling off its cart? Any of the laws regarding hair?)
Regarding all the sexual sins, I've heard the case made that, as the architect and inventor of sex, God has also written the Manual of Intended Use or something, and using sex in a way not intended by the designer shows disrespect... I've also heard a case made regarding the spiritual aspect of sex, a la 1 Corinthians 6:16-17... And I've heard a very weak case made regarding health laws and STDs... But in the end, all these are kind of putting words in God's mouth. Really, the only actual reason that I can remember ever getting shelled out for such things is:
"If you love me (ἀγαπάω), you will keep what I command." --Jesus of Nazareth
If God's motivation for hating our sin is love-based, our motivation for following all these (often seemingly arbitrary) rules is equally love-based.
Christianity is all about restoring a relationship between ourselves and God. And a living, thriving relationship goes both ways. God loves us, and we start to learn to love him back. One of the ways we express that returned love is through obedience, even in those times when obedience doesn't seem to make sense. This is our opportunity to ἀγαπάω him back.
4) In SummationIs it hard to have faith in a God--loving or not--that tells us that our lives are sinful? Oh yes. Indeed it is. I can speak from experience, because Christianity says that of everyone's life, whether homosexual or heterosexual or transsexual or whatever. Passages like "...All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" and "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves..." My own natural tendencies are considered sinful by Christianity, and I'm straight. Because all humans are fallen, and the imago dei within us is marred, we cannot rely on natural tendencies to tell us what is good and what is not.
But God loves us. He loves us more than anyone else could ever possibly love us. And he loves us with an unconditional love--it doesn't matter what your sexual orientation is, what you've done, what you're going to do. He loves us regardless and self-sacrificially. Still, do not confuse love with approval. It is, after all, our sin that separates us from God--and how can God approve of something that comes between him and one whom he loves?
And if you are G, L, B, or T, the take-away message is this: Because God loves you--unconditionally, sacrificially--that is the love that I and all Christians should be loving you with too. Never let a Christian tell you that God hates you because of your orientation. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Comments (78)
Chris, I've got tears in my eyes. Thank you, for this post. You are going to get fire, but I for one am simply thankful. I wish I'd had a Christian in my life like you 30 years ago...But, well, here you are now...
God bless you richly,
Lonnie
@Such_Were_You - I'm with you. This is going to get major heat. But praise God...Chris has been given the knowledge and wisdom to handle such nay-sayers. :)
I'M WITH YOU CHRIS!!! I only wish I could say what you did as well as you have.
If sin is only action and not thought or orientation, then Christ would never have pointed to the sin at heart. The Bible says to hold every thought captive. Homosexual attraction should not be an extended state in the mind or in deed.
None of that however takes away from the love of God. God loves gays as you said.
@DailyConstruct@revelife - Hmm, granted. I guess that I'm probing at the distinction between attraction and lust. My definition of lust would be that "extended state." When Jesus said that "whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in her heart," that looking-to-lust is a conscious choice as opposed to an involuntary subconscious feeling. (I think it was Luther who said something like "I can't keep the birds from flying over my head, but I can keep them from making a nest in my hair.")
Thus, if same-sex lust follows the same pattern as cross-sex lust, it's the conscious dwelling-on and the "second look" that must be taken captive. I don't think that the initial burst of attraction (which is beyond one's control) is anything one needs feel guilty about, though.
Good point!
Amen! Thank you for expressing my thoughts exactly. I hope it's helpful to those who are hurting over this issue.
A father can love his dissobediant son just as much as his obediant one. This doesn't mean that he is not angry with him.
Great post. I think that a lot of times people look as homosexuality as a sin above all other sins, when it's not. The sins I commit as a straight person (including all of my sexual sins, of which there are many) are on the same level as the sins of a gay person. People hear the word sin and they get testy... no one likes being told that they are wrong, or that they are below someone. And they're not... they are on the same level. God is Love.
Here's my stance: From a biblical point of view, I do consider homosexuality a sin. I do not consider it a sin above all other sins, because I believe that God loves everyone unconditionally, and that sin is sin in His eyes, regardless of the context. I don't care if gay people get married. I don't buy the argument that allowing them to marry will ruin my union with my husband. They are humans and deserve rights. All of the hate that goes around towards gay people is sickening and breaks my heart. God is Love and gay people are still people.
my little sister who is 50yrs old asked me why everyone hates gays and I told her that they think they are a group who sexually abuse children. She asked me why they think that. She named all the couples we know who are gay and they didn't do that.
I told her that they are mixed up and we need to be tolerant with the only who believe that about all the gays just like we can't hate all men cause of a few child abusers.
Most Christians don't understand homosexuality, so they lash out. People don't normally like what they don't know... good post...
Many people confuse or don't fully understand agape. If one were interested in an even longer treatise on God's love, I would suggest Dues Caritas Est ("God is Love"). This is very good.
I like what you wrote here my best friend is gay, and him and I talk about things like this.
I love the people who forget what exactly sodomy entails. Quality work, once again Chris.
@ChrisRusso - Yes indeed. I agree that any initial "burst of attraction" is not sin, but I would differ here in that homosexual attraction cannot be considered in the same vein as heterosexual attraction... and that it indeed is a sin. The way I view it, one would have had to cross certain boundaries before he/she would start thinking that way. So I would propose looking back even further to identify where the "sin" feelings began to take hold.. and thereafter produce the effects of a "depraved mind". I think we can agree biblically that sin begets sin, whether in thought or deed.
Very nice, especially the "warp factor 9" part!
@DailyConstruct@revelife - I think it is important to remember that (generic 2nd person) you are
not your temptation. Everyone has temptations flash into their minds:
"Just steal it. Ram her car with your shopping cart! If they aren't
looking, you can ogle them freely..." You have to cross a line and give in to the temptation, even if it is mentally, before you are sinning.
Thank you so much for writing this. I'm one of the Christians who never has and never will proclaim that "God hates gays." And yet, I've never been able to get out of that category by people that only see the label "Christian" slapped on my forehead.
Thank you for letting me feel like I've been heard.
Why was the 'knowledge of good and evil' forbidden? This is something I've been pondering for a long while. I've come to the conclusion that we, as mere humans with the inability to 'see with God's eyes' and 'perceive with God's heart' are hopelessly inept at deciphering good from evil, and at administering justice. The root of all of our problems can be basically traced to the eating of this 'fruit'. We think we can gather all the facts, we think we can judge fairly, we think we can perceive truth, but we can't. We suck. This 'knowledge of good and evil' is too complicated for us ... in our limited capacities. One day, perhaps, we will be able to handle it - but for now, we are making a complete mess of it.
Daily Construct said, "You are not your temptation." Remembering that could/should/might/will put a whole new light on the thoughts voiced here. Whether we think it, feel it, or do it and we think feel or know it is wrong, then we sin - only perfect one was our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Yes,, God loves us - we are his children - no parent loves the sins of their children - but yes, as a parent our love never waivers. It's more about judgement - and we know we judge - and that for me is perhaps the ultimate sin - for only our Lord and Saviour will ultimately stand in judgement - so let go and let God - you won't have ulcers or need medication for anxiety attacks that way!
This is a very good entry. nice job.
he's God, it's kind of what he does. Lol
Very good post. I wish all Christians would realize this!
Great job.
I must confess that I have the attention span of a gnat, and would normally read only the first couple of paragraphs of a post this long before losing interest. Your posts keep me reading because they're usually about things that matter, and they're so well written.